Shaolin Sparring II

Ayasani Says:

Jul 27, 2008 - Amazing as always, thanks alot for uploading!

FamilyQuan Says:

Jul 28, 2008 - This is nothing at all like real sparring. Even children on other martial arts classes do more realistic sparring. Pretty shameful.

FlowingZen Says:

Jul 28, 2008 - Because we use traditional stances and techniques spontaneously, it's nothing like "real" sparring? Because it doesn't look like kickboxing, it's not "real" sparring?

FamilyQuan Says:

Jul 28, 2008 - No, that's not the reason. I have a kung fu brother who uses nan quan and Southern style techniques in his sparring very effectively. Equally, stances are useable, and many traditional techniques are valid. But your "sparring" has no realistic contact or intent. Put gloves on and really try to hit one another. Without actually hitting, there is no sparring - just half speed dancing. Contact, speed, and realistic intent to attack are necessary to see if you really can use those techniques.

FlowingZen Says:

Jul 28, 2008 - Half speed dancing? LOL. Perhaps you'd like to show us your idea of sparring? In our school, we train as kung fu practitioners have done for thousands of years -- without gloves. There is plenty of intent in our techniques. Turn up the volume and listen to the contact sounds. As for really trying to hit each other -- it's sparring, not fighting.

FamilyQuan Says:

Aug 1, 2008 - Youtube does not permit posting of other links, as far as I can tell, but there are many examples of realistic sparring on youtube. "Not using gloves" isn't really a big boast if you don't actually hit. Shaolin Wah Nam isn't thousands of years old. There is really no intent in your technique. I suggest you find some interviews with Zhao Dao Xin - a real kung fu master, and consider his words very carefully. Maybe someone from wah nam can fight, but there is no proof of that, as yet.

FlowingZen Says:

Aug 1, 2008 - Thanks for the advice, but I've already found a real kung fu master. You and I have different very concepts of internal martial arts. I don't use bags or external training, and yet I hit very hard because of my internal power. I spar using traditional techniques and stances, not kickboxing. And when dealing with other martial artists, I am a gentleman. I would never call a fellow martial artist "shameful" based solely on a 2-minute video.

indieoak Says:

Aug 24, 2008 - This comment is directed to "FamilyQuan." I have studied Shaolin kung fu for a little over three years and can tell you this is how real kung fu sparring is done in order to perfect complex techniques that would a: injure your partner much worse than you'd like to in a sparring match and b: require a lot of repetition at a slower pace to achieve better form before it would be used at full speed with any effectiveness. Would you also suggest that taijiquan practitioners are wasting their time?

monkfg Says:

Sep 5, 2008 - Looks very good. I'd like to see this in a fight with MMA rules, that should be free enough to unfold your intuition.