NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Sand? Hahahahaha...Look when the astronauts are walking. It takes so little to disturb the surface and the "sand" is off the ground really high. That's proof that it IS fine grained and it is in fact DUST. I like to see how you could make such detailed footsteps on sand like the astronauts did on the moon. That's another proof that the surface is fine grained and it is in fact DUST.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Also look at 2:20 when the astronaut loses his balance and when he turns and steps on the surface so he doesn't fall the "sand" is off the ground really high just by steping on it...not kicking not doing anything else, just steping. Sand does not have this behaviour. If you try this on sand you'll see that nothing of the sort will happen. The only disturbance you'll get is a crappy footstep and the sand won't be leaving the surface at all... What you're saying is just so ridiculous.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Nice try though... You conspiracy theorist are so ignorant.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - I also suggest that you watch... Lunar Legacy Episode 1, Part 1 (Did we land on the moon?) That video explains it all...
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - poor idiot , the video are slowed down by 1,4 to 1,6x , the motion you see here is not the real speed , meaning the real force is greater than the apparent one , meaning higher apex , and all of this on good old earth on sand or sand-like surface (no dust) go learn poor kid.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - "This scenario doesn't produce all the effects of lunar soil that can be simultaneously observed in the videos: dryness, dustlessness, and imprintability. Sand will not hold a footprint unless it is wet, and if it is wet it will land in clumps after being disturbed. If it is dry, but the particles are small enough to hold a print, it will form dust clouds in air when disturbed." I can't believe ppl like you even exist...Calling ppl names when you're the one that needs to do their research.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - There is no footprint in the videos , not a well defined one like in the photo that is , and same thing goes for the rover track , there are roughly non existant in the videos (while abundant in the photos) guess why ... it seems that you are the one that need research , start by searching your brain first.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Search for 'Astronaut shovels dirt' you can also find it on the apollo archive website. Despite the bad quality of the video you can still see the sharpness of the footprints that one of the apollo astronauts leaves. All of the footprints you see in the video are sharp. For a better quality of the video go to apolloarchive website and search for "Young and Duke sample at crystalline rock" in the multimedia section.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - these aren't well defined prints.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Yes they are. Although you can't see details of the sole you can clearly see the sharpness of the footprints. You can't leave such a sharp contour on a sand.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - of course you can leave these kind of prints , as they aren't sharp prints , the boots being quite bulky helps
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - I disagree. Dry sand that's able to make a footrpint is also able to make a dust cloud...Yet no dust clouds are seen in the apollo videos. I found a video for you to look at, search for "Sand kicking... lmao i was bored". There you can see tracks but you also can make dust clouds.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - I also encourage you to show me sand that makes footprints with defined shape and edges and doesn't make dust clouds.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - And if the prints aren't sharp they wont be visible at all because of the low quality of the video. Instead they stick out because of the dark shadows they are casting on the edges of the print. The depth is also clearly visible...That right there my friend means that the footprints ARE sharp.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - as no defined sharp print is seen on any video , i don't know why i shsould show you such sand , so your request is off.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - dry sand doesn't make clouds , dry sand mixed with dry dirts yes , but not dry sand alone.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - So what you're telling me is that you don't see a shape of a boot when it's clearly visible?
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - Okay, now I understand...Believe what ever you wanna believe it's not like your opinion will changes the fact that we went to the moon. Neil Armstrong himself said "Truth needs no defense. Nobody can ever take the footsteps I made on the surface on the moon away from me." And he has the right to say it...So if you wanna believe your crazy ideas go ahead. I'm done arguing with you.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - This quote was from gene cernan , and he didn't even dared to say Moon , he said , "muh" (he probably didn't liked the script and hesitated ) i don't 'believe' the didn't go to the moon , i know they didn't , that's different.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - You KNOW it but all the thousands of people who worked for the project and the USSR at that time who had samples of the lunar soil didn't...Yeah makes perfect sense.
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - No , i see a shape , but i don't see a well defined sharp print , (but rather a loose shape) same thing for the rover tracks (try to find visible sharp defined rover track in any video ... roughly impossible to find if not impossible , but when you look the photos , the rover track are visible for dozens of meters if most of them.
NakSsS Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - WOW, really? o_O Good thing USSR and all the thousands of workers who worked for the project didn't notice that...
1plus8 Says:
Jul 26, 2008 - They didn't faked it on dust you idiot ... the surface they used was sand , or sand-like (doesn't form floating clouds of 'dust').